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		<title>By: The Captain&#8217;s Journal &#187; The Sorry State of the Afghan National Police</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Captain&#8217;s Journal &#187; The Sorry State of the Afghan National Police</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 04:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tim Lynch gives us this update on the state of the Afghan Police from his perspective. There is not much good to report from Afghanistan at the moment. With armed criminality reaching epidemic proportions there is a flood of stories about the dismal state of the Afghan National Police (ANP). The Afghan police are not just ineffective – they are despised by rural people who will take the hard tyranny of the Taliban over being preyed upon by the police.  This article puts the blame for Afghanistan’s dysfunctional police force on the Germans but that is BS. The Department of State has spent over 10 BILLION on their cookie cutter law enforcement training program which I have written about before. There is only one way to get the police to perform and that is to live with them, mentor them daily, and make them perform. Mentor teams who live on FOB’s and commute to the job become targets because their routine is fixed and predictable. The civilian contractors who work out of the gigantic regional training centers are essential worthless inflicting death by PowerPoint on their students.  What can they teach an Afghan cop about being an Afghan cop? Afghanistan cops are functioning as a paramilitary organization and are trained, armed and deployed as such. But some, perhaps a great many have retained the thuggish ways of warlord sponsored foot soldiers and that is obviously not too good. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tim Lynch gives us this update on the state of the Afghan Police from his perspective. There is not much good to report from Afghanistan at the moment. With armed criminality reaching epidemic proportions there is a flood of stories about the dismal state of the Afghan National Police (ANP). The Afghan police are not just ineffective – they are despised by rural people who will take the hard tyranny of the Taliban over being preyed upon by the police.  This article puts the blame for Afghanistan’s dysfunctional police force on the Germans but that is BS. The Department of State has spent over 10 BILLION on their cookie cutter law enforcement training program which I have written about before. There is only one way to get the police to perform and that is to live with them, mentor them daily, and make them perform. Mentor teams who live on FOB’s and commute to the job become targets because their routine is fixed and predictable. The civilian contractors who work out of the gigantic regional training centers are essential worthless inflicting death by PowerPoint on their students.  What can they teach an Afghan cop about being an Afghan cop? Afghanistan cops are functioning as a paramilitary organization and are trained, armed and deployed as such. But some, perhaps a great many have retained the thuggish ways of warlord sponsored foot soldiers and that is obviously not too good. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
		<link>http://freerangeinternational.com/blog/?p=1797#comment-594</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;ve said this before but it really freaks me out that you&#039;re the only voice screaming about embedding with local populations.

When the war started I thought &quot;This is simple, send a small team in a couple of LAVs (Strykers) to a town to get the security under control and establish a perimeter. Use some hunter/killer forces to weed out the guys hiding in the hills. Once security settles down, send in a medical team. Then, bring in ANA and ANP officers to embed/prop up the military teams. After the Afghans get a handle on the situation, bring in western civilians contractors to hire and train Afghan civilians in the various necessities such as construction, sewage, irrigation etc.

Once the basics are established, next comes a local doctor. Set up a school. Try to set up small CO-OP organization that puts the profits back into the towns and the people. Get the money into the hands of the Afghans so they can spend it at the local market, which makes more money for more locals!!! Slowly phase out the western contractors, then the military. Rinse, then repeat...&quot;

Anyway, maybe it&#039;s just my ego, but I like hearing you talk about the ideas that I thought were going to work. I honestly couldn&#039;t understand why we were &quot;losing&quot; this war until I found this blog and you explained the REAL operational situation. Why the HELL would you commute from an large FOB out to the boonies, let KBR build a school, declare peace in the land and then leave. WHO THOUGHT THAT WAS GOING TO WORK?

Keep screaming Tim, someone will hear you sooner or later. Or at the very least, you can always say, &quot;I told you so!&quot;

Cheers,
Russ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;ve said this before but it really freaks me out that you&#8217;re the only voice screaming about embedding with local populations.</p>
<p>When the war started I thought &#8220;This is simple, send a small team in a couple of LAVs (Strykers) to a town to get the security under control and establish a perimeter. Use some hunter/killer forces to weed out the guys hiding in the hills. Once security settles down, send in a medical team. Then, bring in ANA and ANP officers to embed/prop up the military teams. After the Afghans get a handle on the situation, bring in western civilians contractors to hire and train Afghan civilians in the various necessities such as construction, sewage, irrigation etc.</p>
<p>Once the basics are established, next comes a local doctor. Set up a school. Try to set up small CO-OP organization that puts the profits back into the towns and the people. Get the money into the hands of the Afghans so they can spend it at the local market, which makes more money for more locals!!! Slowly phase out the western contractors, then the military. Rinse, then repeat&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyway, maybe it&#8217;s just my ego, but I like hearing you talk about the ideas that I thought were going to work. I honestly couldn&#8217;t understand why we were &#8220;losing&#8221; this war until I found this blog and you explained the REAL operational situation. Why the HELL would you commute from an large FOB out to the boonies, let KBR build a school, declare peace in the land and then leave. WHO THOUGHT THAT WAS GOING TO WORK?</p>
<p>Keep screaming Tim, someone will hear you sooner or later. Or at the very least, you can always say, &#8220;I told you so!&#8221;</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Russ</p>
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		<title>By: Solomon2</title>
		<link>http://freerangeinternational.com/blog/?p=1797#comment-599</link>
		<dc:creator>Solomon2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;police problem&quot; is related, more broadly, to the entire problem of corrupt justice systems in Muslim lands.  In each Muslim-dominated country where European colonizers left behind functioning justice systems (or the newly independent states had them in their constitutions) they were undermined by purposeful neglect and the formation of separate law-enforcement arms under executive control.

This process, however, can also work in reverse.  What is needed is separation (or competition) of national level crimes and authority from local ones, as the circuit courts and sheriffs of English kings were separate from manorial courts of the lords.  In the U.S. today, our separate federal and state courts, prisons, and law enforcement systems serve much the same functions, and corruption is checked.

I know I&#039;m explaining it badly - lawyers more skilled in the history of Western justice can explain it better.  But perhaps Afghanistan could usefully take a page or two from the same book...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;police problem&#8221; is related, more broadly, to the entire problem of corrupt justice systems in Muslim lands.  In each Muslim-dominated country where European colonizers left behind functioning justice systems (or the newly independent states had them in their constitutions) they were undermined by purposeful neglect and the formation of separate law-enforcement arms under executive control.</p>
<p>This process, however, can also work in reverse.  What is needed is separation (or competition) of national level crimes and authority from local ones, as the circuit courts and sheriffs of English kings were separate from manorial courts of the lords.  In the U.S. today, our separate federal and state courts, prisons, and law enforcement systems serve much the same functions, and corruption is checked.</p>
<p>I know I&#8217;m explaining it badly &#8211; lawyers more skilled in the history of Western justice can explain it better.  But perhaps Afghanistan could usefully take a page or two from the same book&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TS Alfabet</title>
		<link>http://freerangeinternational.com/blog/?p=1797#comment-597</link>
		<dc:creator>TS Alfabet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great, great posts.  Great insights. Hope you can keep it going but not any longer than you can do it safely.

The heart-breaking reality is that the Administration has already written off A-stan.  It was written off before January 20, actually, but elections demand posturing and the posturing demanded that Obama appear tough against terror so he made alot of noise about winning the fight in A-stan.  But it was all smoke.  And the surest measure of that is the pitiful amount of combat forces committed to A-stan by the Admin: a total of 68,000.  Period.  Can the Marines get it done in their AO?  You bet.  But what about the rest of A-stan?  And without the kind of follow up strategy that Tim talks about, any gains will be short-lived.  Which gets us back to the lack of any real commitment to win by the Admin.  There won&#039;t be any follow on improvements.  Instead, there will be exit strategies and not much of that as it goes.  Watch for the Admin-orchestrated media campaign to cover for our wholesale pull-out from A-stan disguised as &quot;Afghanizing&quot; the war, turning it over to them etc...

Better to leave today and not waste another U.S. soldier&#039;s life than to have this charade that is not intent on victory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great, great posts.  Great insights. Hope you can keep it going but not any longer than you can do it safely.</p>
<p>The heart-breaking reality is that the Administration has already written off A-stan.  It was written off before January 20, actually, but elections demand posturing and the posturing demanded that Obama appear tough against terror so he made alot of noise about winning the fight in A-stan.  But it was all smoke.  And the surest measure of that is the pitiful amount of combat forces committed to A-stan by the Admin: a total of 68,000.  Period.  Can the Marines get it done in their AO?  You bet.  But what about the rest of A-stan?  And without the kind of follow up strategy that Tim talks about, any gains will be short-lived.  Which gets us back to the lack of any real commitment to win by the Admin.  There won&#8217;t be any follow on improvements.  Instead, there will be exit strategies and not much of that as it goes.  Watch for the Admin-orchestrated media campaign to cover for our wholesale pull-out from A-stan disguised as &#8220;Afghanizing&#8221; the war, turning it over to them etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Better to leave today and not waste another U.S. soldier&#8217;s life than to have this charade that is not intent on victory.</p>
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		<title>By: The Kitchen Dispatch</title>
		<link>http://freerangeinternational.com/blog/?p=1797#comment-590</link>
		<dc:creator>The Kitchen Dispatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my! Poisoning the betrothed!!  I guess she would be known as the wicked aunt if she were a character in The Arabian Nights.  Amazing that this still happens.

Vacrna, I think to have a static military base there for the sole purpose of maneuvers would be boring for the world&#039;s armed forces. Replacing essential infrastructure not only makes the Afghans&#039; lives better, but hopefully they see the good in having us over there. Roads, medical care, schools, electrical plants, water aqueducts, newspaper plants, agricultural assistance, alternate revenue sources --all things we are capable of assisting with that benefit the rebuilding of their societ, and are good for the morale of those serving. Believe me, the soldiers want to be viewed as persons who can make things better.  After all, we&#039;re trying to give them the option. But as Tim says, without the funding and implementation or the overall big picture to fund projects like the one he describes --is going to just prolong everything.

I also very much like what Sarah Chayes with Arghand.org,  as well as what Greg Mortenson have been doing. You might want to check them out too. Private efforts really do work, because they work very hard on relationships.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my! Poisoning the betrothed!!  I guess she would be known as the wicked aunt if she were a character in The Arabian Nights.  Amazing that this still happens.</p>
<p>Vacrna, I think to have a static military base there for the sole purpose of maneuvers would be boring for the world&#8217;s armed forces. Replacing essential infrastructure not only makes the Afghans&#8217; lives better, but hopefully they see the good in having us over there. Roads, medical care, schools, electrical plants, water aqueducts, newspaper plants, agricultural assistance, alternate revenue sources &#8211;all things we are capable of assisting with that benefit the rebuilding of their societ, and are good for the morale of those serving. Believe me, the soldiers want to be viewed as persons who can make things better.  After all, we&#8217;re trying to give them the option. But as Tim says, without the funding and implementation or the overall big picture to fund projects like the one he describes &#8211;is going to just prolong everything.</p>
<p>I also very much like what Sarah Chayes with Arghand.org,  as well as what Greg Mortenson have been doing. You might want to check them out too. Private efforts really do work, because they work very hard on relationships.</p>
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		<title>By: David M</title>
		<link>http://freerangeinternational.com/blog/?p=1797#comment-589</link>
		<dc:creator>David M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the blog post &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thunderrun.us/2009/07/from-front-07202009.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;From the Front: 07/20/2009 &lt;/a&gt; News and Personal dispatches from the front and the home front.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the blog post <a href="http://www.thunderrun.us/2009/07/from-front-07202009.html" rel="nofollow">From the Front: 07/20/2009 </a> News and Personal dispatches from the front and the home front.</p>
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		<title>By: babatim</title>
		<link>http://freerangeinternational.com/blog/?p=1797#comment-588</link>
		<dc:creator>babatim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that is exactly it - one of my local guys mentioned that too and it makes more sense then the sisters getting to him.  My girls did a similar thing to my own son once or twice but made a much bigger mess of it. It is clear from his father that they are dirt poor (their clothes wear worn and filthy) but it was also clear that his Dad was most attentive to him too.  My guess is they are IDP&#039;s living with relatives because they came out of a pretty large compound in the center of Gardez.  Most of the locals there just do not look that ragged - the workers on our projects all have better clothes and they are from very poor households.

In the small world department I lived in West Jordan from 98 - 07.  My family loved the Wasatch Front and the area around your school was one of our favorites.

Thanks for the comment - I really appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that is exactly it &#8211; one of my local guys mentioned that too and it makes more sense then the sisters getting to him.  My girls did a similar thing to my own son once or twice but made a much bigger mess of it. It is clear from his father that they are dirt poor (their clothes wear worn and filthy) but it was also clear that his Dad was most attentive to him too.  My guess is they are IDP&#8217;s living with relatives because they came out of a pretty large compound in the center of Gardez.  Most of the locals there just do not look that ragged &#8211; the workers on our projects all have better clothes and they are from very poor households.</p>
<p>In the small world department I lived in West Jordan from 98 &#8211; 07.  My family loved the Wasatch Front and the area around your school was one of our favorites.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment &#8211; I really appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: VACRNA</title>
		<link>http://freerangeinternational.com/blog/?p=1797#comment-581</link>
		<dc:creator>VACRNA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I ask the same questions as you imply.  What is the end point?  How many road improvements are made and water canals dug before its enough?  I understand our presence there; the result of extracting these terrorist training grounds.  But considering your summation of the Afgan government; the corruption, bribery, ingrained in these peoples way of living, can we seriously expect any sort of &quot;awakening&quot;?

Couldn&#039;t we simply establish some sort of military base there, performing military maneuvers to inform those thugs that the least bit of a scent of terrorist plotting results in fire up someones ass.  In conjunction with that provide a secure means whereby the Afgan people are allowed to come to us.  Place the onus on them to help provide safe passage and stability to recieve our help.  Certainly where these conditions aren&#039;t met, we are prepared to inflict whatever means to assure assistance.  But it is THERE initiative.  It seems to me that there are many areas of Afganistan, particularly the remote ones that simply wish to live out there lives as they have always done.  To attmept any other way simply drives them into the fold of the Taliban.  More importantly, straight into Pakistan.

America has shown its might.  We can continue a real threat of retaliation if needed.  Again, what is the ultimate goal here...what is the end point??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I ask the same questions as you imply.  What is the end point?  How many road improvements are made and water canals dug before its enough?  I understand our presence there; the result of extracting these terrorist training grounds.  But considering your summation of the Afgan government; the corruption, bribery, ingrained in these peoples way of living, can we seriously expect any sort of &#8220;awakening&#8221;?</p>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t we simply establish some sort of military base there, performing military maneuvers to inform those thugs that the least bit of a scent of terrorist plotting results in fire up someones ass.  In conjunction with that provide a secure means whereby the Afgan people are allowed to come to us.  Place the onus on them to help provide safe passage and stability to recieve our help.  Certainly where these conditions aren&#8217;t met, we are prepared to inflict whatever means to assure assistance.  But it is THERE initiative.  It seems to me that there are many areas of Afganistan, particularly the remote ones that simply wish to live out there lives as they have always done.  To attmept any other way simply drives them into the fold of the Taliban.  More importantly, straight into Pakistan.</p>
<p>America has shown its might.  We can continue a real threat of retaliation if needed.  Again, what is the ultimate goal here&#8230;what is the end point??</p>
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		<title>By: Funny Stuff: Hair of Death &#124; Feral Jundi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Funny Stuff: Hair of Death &#124; Feral Jundi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BWJones</title>
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		<dc:creator>BWJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 04:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Pakistan it is not uncommon for childrens eyes to be smeared with a paste made up of hazelnut powder and oils called surma to protect the eyes from the smoke used in fires to heat the home.  This cools and cleans the eyes and wards off &quot;nazar&quot; or the evil eye.  I would not be surprised if this custom is also seen in areas of Afghanistan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Pakistan it is not uncommon for childrens eyes to be smeared with a paste made up of hazelnut powder and oils called surma to protect the eyes from the smoke used in fires to heat the home.  This cools and cleans the eyes and wards off &#8220;nazar&#8221; or the evil eye.  I would not be surprised if this custom is also seen in areas of Afghanistan.</p>
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